It's not just RCP, Maoists in general are super wacky.
Leading Light Communist Organization argues that when we have global communism, everyone will make the equivalent of $9000 a year. They got that figure by just taking the world GDP and dividing it by 8 billion.
Rural People's Party models itself after Jim Jones and the People's Temple. Seriously.
Oooh, those are good ones. Never even heard of them.
How can you leave out the Sparticists, or the US affiliates, if any, of ICC, ICG, ICT, IP, IMG, or Solidarity, Socialist Alliance, Socialist Action...?
I don't really know any of the others...but is Solidarity that nuts? From what I know of them they're just a non-sectarian socialist group with a strong Trotskyist streak.
well the WWP sent election observers to Syria a few years ago, to make sure the imperialist pig-dogs did not interfere with Assad's free elections
edit: thanks to fnordie's good eyes
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Ray O. Light and Progressive Labor?
this group does not exist anymore: Youth for Stalin – Stalinist Workers Group for Afro-American National Liberation and a New Communist International
Entdinglichung wrote:
Progressive Labor?
One time when I was 14 I went to a PLP May Day thing. They sang songs like "you can't smash the bosses without passing the hat" while collecting money, it was hilarious
I mean, the Sparts take it obviously, but I always thought Worker's World was a good one, too.
That's the only M-L party with a major presence in my area. In my experience a large percentage of them are newly-recruited working class people with only a vague understanding of the party line. They do love North Korea and any other nominally socialist state...a WWP member was the only person I've ever heard refer to China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, and North Korea as "the five that survived"
Fnordie wrote:
China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, and North Korea as "the five that survived"
not so much different from the Sparts who "defend" them ("militarily, not politically") as "deformed workers' states"
Entdinglichung wrote:
("militarily, not politically")
Haha I wish they'd form an armed wing. Geriatric RAF.
Fnordie wrote:
...a WWP member was the only person I've ever heard refer to China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, and North Korea as "the five that survived"
Survive??? We're working on stopping that!
jahbread wrote:
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5 down votes? Christ, there's some po-faced fuckers round here.
DP
Fnordie wrote:
Entdinglichung wrote:
("militarily, not politically")Haha I wish they'd form an armed wing. Geriatric RAF.
the only violent attacks carried out by Sparts of which I do know were directed against former members who joined the IBT (they're also in a way nutty but generally really nice people)
Fnordie wrote:
Rural People's Party models itself after Jim Jones and the People's Temple. Seriously.
are they real?
Entdinglichung wrote:
are they real?
It's not a joke, but it might be like 2 people
Entdinglichung wrote:
the only violent attacks carried out by Sparts of which I do know were directed against former members who joined the IBT (they're also in a way nutty but generally really nice people)
Uh...I assume you don't mean International Brotherhood of Teamsters?
Deep Green Resistance (DGR)
"For a Better World" (FABW) communist organization and newsletter
http://leftspot.com/blog/?q=taxonomy/term/109/9
Home of the "Free Saddam Hussein" campaign.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/282632.shtml
Honorable Mention: "The Spark" self-loathing Trots who really hate Petty Bourgeoisie Trots who aren't in the industrial proletariat. As near as I can figure, they were a split from the Sparticist League. As far as I know, this rare leftist organization can only be spotted in Baltimore.
Fnordie wrote:
Uh...I assume you don't mean International Brotherhood of Teamsters?
International Bolshevik Tendency
http://www.bolshevik.org/
Flint wrote:
Honorable Mention: "The Spark" self-loathing Trots who really hate Petty Bourgeoisie Trots who aren't in the industrial proletariat. As near as I can figure, they were a split from the Sparticist League. As far as I know, this rare leftist organization can only be spotted in Baltimore.
Spark is about as old as the Sparts. They are aligned internationally with one of the largest Trotskyist international tendancies Internationalist Communist Union, usually called Lutte Ouvrière after the French section, their largest. in 2002 their candidate got 5% of the vote for President of France.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutte_Ouvri%C3%A8re
I've run across them in Chicago El stations and in Oakland, so not just Baltimore. Their focus is building support in workplaces and also against personality cults. Can't be that bad...
Flint wrote:
The Spark
I've never seen evidence that the Spark is anyone else besides that one old guy who goes to the PPA demos. He likes to show off how up-to-date he is by bragging they were the only left party with a presence in Bethlehem Steel (which can't possibly be true, right?)
The Spark is generally focused on building cells in big plants of the car industry, their strongholds were the closed GM plant in Baltimore and some car factories in/around Detroit
Fnordie wrote:
Entdinglichung wrote:
are they real?It's not a joke, but it might be like 2 people
Entdinglichung wrote:
the only violent attacks carried out by Sparts of which I do know were directed against former members who joined the IBT (they're also in a way nutty but generally really nice people)Uh...I assume you don't mean International Brotherhood of Teamsters?
the Sparts would never attack "the Workers", unless you count paper sales and stalls as an attack in the class
Flint wrote:
Fnordie wrote:
Uh...I assume you don't mean International Brotherhood of Teamsters?International Bolshevik Tendency
http://www.bolshevik.org/
they did ambushed and beat up a former member in Hamburg despite that guy being quite old and frail
Entdinglichung wrote:
their strongholds were the closed GM plant in Baltimore and some car factories in/around Detroit
All the over-60 lefties I know reminisce about the back-to-the-factories movement. Were all the grouplets like that, with a different industry as their focus? Old CPUSA guys tell stories about fighting it out with the John Birch Society in shipyards in the 1970s.
Actually, I meant the Socialist Equality Party, not WSP. Was getting their name confused with their website.